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http://securitywannabe.com/blog/2008/04/07/interview-with-ross-anderson-security-engineering-20/



By Craig Balding

April 7th, 2008



7 years ago, a Cambridge Professor called Ross Anderson published a book

called .Security Engineering..



Up until that time, it wasn.t often you would hear anyone talk about

.Security Engineering. - let alone find an entire book written on the

subject.



As soon as the book came out, it made a real and lasting impression on

the security community.





Richard Bejtlich summed it up with his review on Amazon:



This book changes everything. .Security Engineering. is the new

must-read book for any serious information security professional.

In fact, it may be required reading for anyone concerned with

engineering of any sort. Ross Anderson.s ability to blend

technology, history, and policy makes .Security Engineering.

a landmark work.



Ross has now finished a major update and the new edition is just hitting

the stores. Security Wannabe caught up with him to find out more about

Security Engineering 2.0. We managed to cover a lot of ground in 8

questions.







1. In essence, what is .security engineering.?



Security engineering is about building systems to remain

dependable in the face of malice, error or mischance. As a

discipline, it focuses on the tools, processes and methods needed

to design, implement and test complete systems, and to adapt

existing systems as their environment evolves.





2. Why is security engineering important?



It.s often a showstopper when people get it wrong - for example, a

$20bn program to computerize healthcare in the UK looks set to

fall to pieces, because the lack of adequate protection for

privacy and safety is leading doctors to reject it. And poor

security engineering leads to huge waste of resources. The USA has

spent $14bn harassing airline passengers since 9/11 but has failed

to complete a $500m program to reinforce cockpit doors - and many

US airports still don.t do background checks on ground staff.





3. What prompted you to write the book .Security Engineering.?



There were no good books - just specialist works looking at some

aspect or other of locks, or ciphers, or access controls. Yet

security is a system-level property.





4. The 1st Edition covered an incredible range of topics. How much

research went into the book?



Fifteen years of academic research, plus teaching materials

developed for undergraduate courses over the same period.





5. What motivated you to pick up the virtual pen again and write a

second edition?



The world had changed a lot in seven years - not just 9/11 and all

its sequelae, but also the fact that the Internet had become

mainstream, and all sorts of devices that were previously dumb or

standalone started acquiring CPUs and connectivity.





6. For owners of the 1st edition (Ed: selfish question), how much new

core content is there in the 2nd edition vs .bug fixes.?



It.s about 50% bigger. I won.t know the exact page count until I

get the first paper copies on Monday, but in the draft it had gone

from 600-odd pages to 900+.





7. The 1st edition was chock full of real world examples -

personally, I found these very engaging. Can you give a taste of

new examples?



There are plenty new examples from postal meters through API

security to terrorism. I.ve also expanded the scope, so that

physical security doesn.t just mean alarms but also locks

(including recent results on lock bumping) and environmental

security - why it is that some neighbourhoods have crime and

others don.t. In addition, I.ve added chapters on economics and

psychology which open up new examples of different kinds. Both

approaches are needed in a world where the most rapidly-growing

types of fraud involve deception and where systems are less and

less under the control of single organisations.





8. What is your vision for security engineering in the next 5 years?



We.ll be dealing more and more with complex socio-technical

systems, in which we have to consider people as well as servers

and software, and which will evolve over time in response to all

sorts of economic and political pressures. This isn.t just about

security and its cousin dependability, it.s much broader than

that. It.s something truly new, that hasn.t existed before.

Anticipating both the opportunities and the threats will be really

important for companies, for governments, and for everybody.



I.d like to thank Ross for agreeing to do this interview, especially as

he was on holiday at the time.



Frankly, I.m just blown away by the 300 pages of extra content. How many

respected Infosec authors even get close to that?



[Update: Ross just emailed to say he received his first copies of the

book - the actual page count is 1040!]





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