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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:36:27 -0500 (CDT)






http://www.techworld.com/security/news/index.cfm?newsID=102125



By Robert McMillan

IDG News Service

10 July 2008



Computer security professionals have ganged up on Dan Kaminsky for

violating a cardinal rule of hackerdom: publicising a flaw without

providing the technical details to verify the finding.



Kaminsky made headlines earlier this week by talking about a major flaw

in the DNS software used to connect computers to each other on the

Internet. In late March he grouped together 16 companies that make DNS

software - companies like Microsoft, Cisco and Sun Microsystems - and

talked them into fixing the problem and jointly releasing patches for

it.



On Wednesday this week, he took things a step further on his blog,

asking hackers to avoid researching the problem until next month, when

he plans to release more information about it at the Black Hat security

conference.



He said he wanted to go public with the issue to put pressure on

corporate IT staff and Internet service providers to update their DNS

software, while at the same time keeping the bad guys in the dark about

the precise nature of the problem. A full public disclosure of the

technical details would make the Internet unsafe, he said. "Right now,

none of this stuff needs to go public."



He quickly received a sceptical reaction from Matasano Security

researcher Thomas Ptacek, who blogged that Kaminsky's cache poisoning

attack is merely one of many disclosures underlining the same well-known

problem with DNS -- that it does not do a good enough job in creating

random numbers to create unique "session ID" strings when communicating

with other computers on the Internet.



"The bug in DNS is that it has a 16-bit session ID," he said via an

e-mail Wednesday. "You can't deploy a new Web app with less than 128-bit

session IDs. We've known about that fundamental problem since the '90s."



"Here comes the onslaught of interviews and media explosion for another

overhyped bug by Dan Kaminsky," wrote a jaded (and anonymous) poster to

the Matasano blog.



Over at the SANS Internet Storm Center, one blogger speculated that

Kaminsky's bug had actually been disclosed three years earlier.



The flaw appears to be a serious one that could be exploited in what's

called a "cache poisoning attack". These attacks hack the DNS system,

using it to redirect victims to malicious websites without their

knowledge. They have been known about for years but can be hard to pull

off.



But Kaminsky claims to have found a very effective way of launching such

an attack, thanks to a vulnerability in the design of the DNS surprised"

by some of the negative reaction, but that this kind of scepticism was

vital to the hacker community. "I'm breaking the rules," he admitted.

"There's not enough information in the advisory to figure out the attack

and I'm bragging about it."



According to DNS expert Paul Vixie, one of the few people who has been

given a detailed briefing on Kaminsky's finding, it is different from

the issue reported three years ago by SANS. While Kaminsky's flaw is in

the same area, "it's a different problem", said Vixie, who is president

of the Internet Systems Consortium, the maker of the most widely used

DNS server software on the Internet.



The issue is urgent and should be patched immediately, said David Dagon,

a DNS researcher at Georgia Tech who was also briefed on the bug. "With

sparse details, a few have questioned whether Dan Kaminsky had

repackaged older work in DNS attacks," he said. "It is not feasible to

think that the world's DNS vendors would have patched and announced in

unison for no reason."



By day's end, Kaminsky had even turned his most vocal critic, Matasano's

Ptacek, who issued a retraction on this blog after Kaminsky explained

the details of his research over the telephone. "He has the goods,"

Ptacek said afterward. While the attack builds on previous DNS research,

it makes cache poisoning attacks extremely easy to pull off. "He's

pretty much taken it to point and click to an extent that we didn't see

coming."



Kaminsky's remaining critics will have to wait until his 7 August Black

Hat presentation to know for sure, however.



The security researcher said he hopes that they show up for his talk.

"If I do not have the exploit," he said. "I deserve every single piece

of anger and distrust."





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